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Consider a sentence. A sentence is an incredibly complex thing, which requires a stunning amount of rapid decision making to produce, yet we do it all the time with only occasional mistakes.
Each time we utter something our brain has to first of all decide what idea it wants to express, this itself requires analysing the current situation or what your conversational partner previously said. Then delve into it’s memory stored vocabulary and decide which words best express that notion, while also trying to assure they’re appropriate and understandable for present company. Then meticulously arrange those words in to a grammatically correct and coherent order. Then direct the mouth, tongue and vocal chords to vocalise the final product of this complex series of computation.
Yet, most of the time this process is entirely unconscious and completed in seconds. To our mind, words simply flow from our mouth without much thought.
No, I agree. They are true and do exist, I’m just saying they’re not inherent to humanity/Earth.
Again, I thought you were insinuating people deny those things, which I found ridiculous.
I’m talking about the real Karma, not the Western misconception of it. (http://jinkityjanked.tumblr.com/post/21556248696/misconceptions-karma)
The notion of universal justice and the subjective/relative morality of your actions determining your chances/aspects of what happens to you that are unrelated to physical causation is absurd, yes.
After clearing up each others misunderstandings, I think we’ve reached a point where we pretty much agree on everything in the original post then. :)
Thank you, I enjoyed this conversation.
There are some that seem to believe that reality is obliged to appease their desires and emotions. These people feel that truths can be determined by their emotional appeal, that the validity of an idea is proportional to how it makes them feel.
“There HAS to be an after life, I couldn’t bear…
Most of the things you mentioned are actions. Now I know actions originate from ideas, and you can’t permanently kill an idea, but these truths are fleeting. Now you could argue that since they will be rampant during OUR lives that the title truth is relevant, as truth deals with reality and not illusions such as the future, but I guess what I’m trying to say is this truth is relative and not objective.
I know people who are holding the notions of afterlife and god and all that shit, but who’s denying the things you mentioned? I haven’t met anyone who denies those things exist, they just don’t ruminate on them.
Also, karma is real. Karma is just cause and effect, not some mystical justice system.
Is the holocaust not true because it has now passed? I know many of the things I listed are fleeting, but they are truths none the less. When they pass, they remain truths of the past. I get your point that there may come a point where murder, rape, etc. etc. become non-existent, but they still have existed and are very capable of existing in reality. My argument was that bad things can and do exist, I think that argument is still valid even if those things are transient.
”…but who’s denying the things you mentioned?” No one is. That’s my point. It’s a contradiction that people accept those things but can not accept concepts such as evolution on the grounds that it makes them uncomfortable. By listing those things I was trying to point out the inconsistency of reasoning in people that accept some disheartening ideas but not others. Perhaps I should have been clearer.
Before going into Karma, I think we should clarify exactly what we’re talking about. When I used the word Karma, I was referring to the popular notion of Karma, as represented in My Name Is Earl. “Do good things and good things happen to you, do bad things and bad things happen to you.”
Now, I do agree that that notion may be true in social situations. Treat people poorly and they’re likely to reciprocate. How ever, I don’t think it’s true in the sense that amending your previous wrong doings will increase your chances of finding a winning lottery ticket. I suspect that you’re defending a different conception of Karma than what I was originally talking about? Again, perhaps I should have been clearer.